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>> president obama called the bombings an act of terror. >> this was a heinous and cowardly act, and given what we now know about what took place, the fbi's investigating it as an ability of terrorism. any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it is an ability ct of terror. >> new details about the horrif horrific act. here's what we know at the moment. the number of people killed stands at three. that includes an 8-year-old boy. >> police have just raised the number of people wounded. they now say 176 people were hurt in the blast, at least 17 are in critical condition but still no arrests and no group has claimed responsibility for the attack. >> the fbi leading the investigation, authorities say they are following several leads. you are looking here at live pictures. we've got live pictures.
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there are of the crime scene, overlooking copley square in boston. >> investigators are combing through every inch. they are simply searching for clues, anything to bring attention to this. we've got an update on the investigation. this news conference happened just a short time ago. you see massachusetts governor deval patrick dispelling earlier reports about a worry for many people that was unexploded devices. >> it's important to clarify that two and only two explosive devices were found yesterday. other parcels, all other parcels in the area of the blast have been examined but there are no unexploded bombs. >> we also heard from the special agent in charge of the fbi's field office about the wide reach of this investigation. have a listen. >> our investigation certainly will not be confined very likely to the city limits of boston. it would extend out to the eastern massachusetts area.
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this will be a worldwide investigation. we will take where the evidence and leads take us. we will go to the ends of the earth to identify the subject or subjects who are responsible for this despicable crime and we will do everything we can do bring them to justice. >> it's heartbreaking here among many tragedies in the story, talking about a family impacted here. you have this 8-year-old, one of three people killed in the explosions. martin richard attended the marathon to watch his dad run, right, when his mom and 6-year-old sister were also seriously hurt in the blast. his sister lost the leg. the more had surgery for a brain injury. >> one witness says he think his saw that boy after the explosion. >> when you're in such shock you don't know really what you're seeing. and i thought i saw a child laying to the left and my wife didn't see that as she later told me. i thought perhaps it was clothing or perhaps someone's limb because there was a man
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there missing a limb. but it -- it was surreal. it was -- whoever did it was just embodiment of evil, unbelievable. >> reporter: the bombs were on the ground rather than being -- >> there's no question the bombs were in knapsacks or something on the ground because the woman whose clothing were melting into her skin, it was on her legs, the man lost a leg, if that was the child, the child was small, we would have been hit 50 feet away across the street if the bombs were higher. the bomb to the right, 75 yards away, nobody really knew what it was. everybody kind of kept going on for a few seconds. the one in front of us at star buck, when that happened there was no doubt in a second everybody was running and screaming. >> reporter: what was going through your mine at that moment? >> we didn't know how many bomb
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there's were. i thought perhaps there were more because there were two and i thought there were some on our side. i wanted to get my wife out of there. our son was due as we thought to cross at that time and we didn't know if there were other bombs up the street. we got hold of him two hours later. we were so excited to be here for the marathon to see our son run and it -- it's -- it's a war zone. >> reporter: is there anything that sort of surprised you? you said such shock, you had a different reaction than you might suspect you would in a situation like this? >> i didn't think that i would be calm and i wasn't calm. i was just in complete shock. when you see bodies around you, limbs, you think in advance that you're going to be just, you know, you'll melt down. but you really -- you're thinking, trying to move people
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out of flpthere. i tried to get my wife out of there. to her credit she wanted to go into the street but you're caught in a dilemma because you know it's terrorism, you're wondering if there's a third bomb to take out first responders, people that are helping. but it's -- you they this was -- this was designed to maim and kill and it did. >> and gary tuchman joinses now from boston's dorchester neighborhood, home to the little boy who died in the blast. i understand the boy's father is something of a community leader, do we know much about that and how he's coping with all of this? >> reporter: well, it's unimaginable how a man copes with this who loses his son, whose wife and whose daughter are in the hospital seriously hurt, and he's home with his other son. i don't know how you cope. also when we cover these stories emotionally very difficult to cover from oklahoma city to 9/
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11, it never gets easier. when we deal with death of children, it's very difficult. that's what we're facing here today. the house behind me, the gray house, that's where 8-year-old martin richard lived. help was a proud son when he went with his mother, brother, sister to see their father run in the boston marathon. a wonderful day. i remember doing that myself rollerblading in a marathon and my 8-year-old daughter years ago met me there and she was proud and i was proud and it's a wonderful day for everybody. now a situation where this father hasn't talked publicly, but we're trying to learn more about the family. something amazingly poignant. the "boston globe" last year printed a picture a peace walk taking place with local grade school students. back then martin in third grade now, was in second grade back then, want to show you a picture, during this peak walk in boston to promote peace in the neighborhood, it says "no more hurting people, peace" and there are two hearts and a peace sign.
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that is a little boy who perished from the terrorist attack. we talked to a short time ago the neighbor who lives in the house next to the gray house, very nice lady who hoz known all babies.hildren since they were - she told us she saw the father. >> i saw him get out of the passenger seat and he looked like he was in a state of shock. i said bill, he didn't answer meer he walked slowly into the house. his friend came over and i said, is everything okay? he said, new york martin was the boy killed. i was speechless. i didn't -- i think he probably said something about denise and the little girl but i -- >> his wife and daughter? >> right. i was in a state of shock i didn't hear what he said. i started to cry. i said if there's anything i can do, let him know i am here and please send him my deepest sympathy. >> reporter: neighbors here want to do something for the family.
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they don't know what they could do yet. this is not something you ever expect will happen in your neighborhood. neighbors, friend, family, classmates coming to the house playing flowers in front and on the sidewalk in front of the house someone wrote the word "peace" the same word that this boy put in his picture that he held up a year ago for the newspaper. >> inconceivable. thanks so much. gary tuchman. >> gary is there in the neighborhood. i used to cover boston, the dorchester area. it's a close community. >> it is. >> a close-knit community. i can only imagine outside of that home what the neighbors are also feeling as well. such a tragic situation. >> what the right thing to do is to comfort somebody in that situation, it just defies belief. >> talking about the chaos and the carnage but also recognizing people who came to aid of victims, the heros. talking about the first sponsers. here's how one of the runners put it. >> the first responders were great. you see on the video now all of the guys jumping over fences
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trying to help out. people activated immediately. whether they were volunteers or boston police. >> dozens of people are fighting for their lives right now. among the 176 people treated for injuries, 17 are now in critical condition. >> that number just grew and grew. 41 are in serious condition. dr. san jay gupta joins from boston. one of the most horrible aspects of the story the number of people who lost limbs in this explosion. two brothers, in fact, each lost a leg. you know, obviously this is a top-rate hospital, a trauma hospital in the like. but these are like battlefield injuries, weren't they? >> i think that's the probably best way to describe it, michael. you and i have both seen these types of injuries. talking the head of surgery here at brigham and women's and he said that's exactly how he described it. he used the description ied to sort of explain what these were like. a couple of points.
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you know there's a lot of question whether or not there was in fact things within the bomb, such as bb-like things or nails, and the doctors confirm that they were. the question before was, was it something just blown in from the surrounding area or was it within the explosive device itself? it was within the explosive device. this is a big level one trauma center, as you mentioned. within 15 minutes the first wave of patients started to come here. by 60 minutes, the proverbial golden hour all of the patients they were going to take did arrive. they performed lots of operations, amputations. a patient with a severe head injury. somebody had a piece of shrapnel that pierced one of the arteries in the neck, the carotid artery a severe injury as well. five patients remain in critical condition. they move fast. they're still working very hard. michael and suzanne? >> tell us about just the extent of the injuries here.
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so many people impacted and the numbers kept going up dramatically hour by hour. why is that? why did it unfold that way? were people able to get to the hospitals or something that delayed the process in getting them there? >> you know, you have a sort of first wave of patients usually within the first hour or two. as you imagine, those are the patients who have the worst injuries. patients who may have been seen at the scene of the race and immediately taken by ambulance and brought here. but you know, remember, when you have an explosion like this, there can be delayed injuries as well. it's almost a concussive blast between the buildings. people may have had concussiv concussive-type injuries, ruptureden eardrum your injure intesti intestines, you may not know it, and later come to the hospital. people who are serious they came unstable, became critical and
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some who were critical became stable. this is a fluctuating and fluid situation for some time. >> is it your opinion as well it could have been worse? you could have had more people who lost their lives because of this? >> yeah. you know, i think there's no question, if you watched some of the tape again, you know, you see people who are pretty close to the blast, to the origin of the blast, were able to run out of there. there are a people a little further away who seemed to be injured. it seems like the blast, as the doctors described it to me, did stay on the ground for a period of time and started to come up. leg injuries initially, awful injuries, to be clear, but those patients are most likely to survive. but then the pressure wave started to go up and that's why you had the neck injury i was describe, head injury, those patients were further away. >> all right. thank you so much. really appreciate it. we know the tragedy in boston being felt throughout the world.
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>> it is. all around the world. runners from 100 countries were represented in this race. it's one of the most international marathons in the world and news organizations around the world are covering the attacks extensively. >> international correspondents have a quick look at reactions from around the globe. >> reporter: here in hong kong and across china the boston marathon blasts have been widely reported. reported almost in real-time but the chinese real estate tycoon who was there among the spectators in boston. he was more than 9 million followers on the blog describes the smoke and the sound of the blast. and his post and photo shared more than 5,000 times. chinese media circulating a photo of a chinese student injured in the bomb attack. the top story in the south china morning post. a female overseas student from china was injured and in a coma.
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she is a student at boston university. christie li christie lieu stout. >> i'm nick paton walsh. many ex-patriots were watching with horror, this is a city with a deep empathy for that violence, having been struck in its center months ago by a similar type of blast. of course this is a region where violence is a daily regularity. a rocket hit by dozens of blasts and dead on monday alone. many concerned at any possible claim of responsibility for the boston attack and the repercussions that could have across the region. >> reporter: i'm fred pleitgen in berlin, germany. of course the bombings are a topic in this country as well. the german government has come out with a statement condemning the attacks and the german
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foreign minister hopes the investigation will lead to those behind it. a famous german marathon runner posted on her twitter account after finishing the race, why must innocent people bleed? >> to find out how you can help the victims of the boston tragedy, go to cnn.com/impact. a lot of people want to know what can you do? >> a great website. all sorts of places to help out. more of what we're working on this hour for "around the world." >> bodies flying through the air. that is what one marathon runner saw as he crossed the finish line. his story next. and pray for boston. that's the twitter hashtag people around the world are using to weigh in on this tragedy. we'll share some emotional tweets with you. [ male announcer ] from the way the bristles move to the way they clean,
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understand. susan candiotti in new york on the line. what have you been hearing, susan? >> reporter: michael a federal law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation is telling us that investigators now believe that one of the bombs appears to have been placed inside a metal pressure cooker that was hidden inside a backpack. so inside a metal pressure cooker, hidden inside a backpack. this, again, has to do with what at least one of the bombs that was found. you'll remember that we have been reporting that law enforcement authorities had issued a bulletin to other investigators to be on the lookout for someone who might have been carrying a black backpack in the area of the explosions right before they occurred. so this might go hand in hand with that. we also heard governor deval patrick of massachusetts announce not long ago that there
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were two bombs and two bombs only. he went on to say that another device that had been found or a suspicious package, rather, that had been found, was blown up as a precautionary measure. so he said they're working with two bombs. we don't have information at this time any or details about the second bomb that was found, michael. >> can didcandy, this is suzann. did the law enforcement official tell you significance of the information, if it -- the pressure cooker if it might have created more shrapnel or if this was a crude device and how this would have impacted the injuries, kinds of injuries we saw in the blast? >> reporter: because it was made of metal, you're right that could have hidden shrapnel placed inside there. remember, we don't have specific information about the makeup of these bombs. we have heard from some of our law enforcement sources that they're looking at -- that they
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have some indication that some of them were constructed with a low velocity powder and another chemical device that would -- could have been put together help create this blast along with other ingredients that would amount to shrapnel. we've also heard from doctors who have been telling us about finding nails and other pieces of metal that they believe were part of the device and not just injuries as well. but we've been hearing from other doctors who said that they found shrapnel as well from the surroundings after the explosion occurred. so certainly this would tend to make it more understandable if you had a metal pressure cooker, what you could put inside of that, how much you could place inside of that. we don't know what kind of triggering device was used, whether set off by a timer or possibly a cell phone. a lot of details yet to come. >> susan, thanks so much.
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susan candiotti there. the thing about the pressure cook somewhere this makes a lot of sense, you can have a much smaller device inside that sealed container, if you like, and when the device goes up, not only nails and ball bearings inside the pressure cooker, but the pressure cook, itself becomes shrapnel and the magnitude of the blast is magnified by being enclosed. it's reminiscent of how efps were built in iraq when that technology came in from iran and the insurgents started using efps where they would shake the charge in such a way the charge was directed effectively, very significant piece of information. >> it sounds like it becomes a bigger bomb that you can have a small device but if it is a metal device -- >> and closed. >> -- and break apart it has a greater impact. >> when it goes off inside the sealed thing, it creates that much more pressure and when the whole thing explodes it all
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becomes shrapnel, if there's shrapnel in there as well, that would explain a lot. it would not have had to been, per se, an enormous explosive device. >> it's one thing to watch the picture. it's dramatic and chaotic on television, it's on the web or internet here, but it's another thing when you are steps away from where the explosion happened. that's another experience. pete crawford, he knows what it's like. he was actually mile 26 when the first bomb went off. pete is joining us now. pete, we're so glad, first of all that you're safe, that you're okay. i know as a marathon runner myselfing you get to that point, 26 miles you're almost delusional and delirious. you're not sure what you are seeing and hearing at that point. did you believe that this was real? what did you think it was? >> oh, at the moment i was just trying to get to the finish line. my legs were cramping and i was
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hurting so bad and i had the finish line zeroed in. with the first explosion went off i thought that's an odd way to be celebrating. the next second i thought, that's not celebrating. that's an explosion. i wonder what's going on. and then a few seconds, and the second explosion goes off. this one was not very far in front of me, you know, probably it was on the left-hand side, of course, and the side right in the middle of a group of spectators on the sidewalk and explosion was huge, fireball and things flying in the air. it was just awful. the second explosion stopped me in my tracks. i -- at that point, i knew somebody was bombing the boston marathon finish line. >> finishing a
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marathon, and then to have it just brought to an abrupt halt with an explosion like that, i -- i -- i was in a daze, you know, for a while. i kind of wandered around in the street with some other runners not knowing quite what to. >> how have the last 24 hours been for you? were you able to sleep last night? >> probably not well. you know, my legs are understandably sore but just after, you know, sleeping overnight i come to a better realization of what happened yesterday and, you know, it's kind of now have a feeling of a little bit of anger and sorrow,
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sorrow for those that were injured and certainly for their families and my heart goes out to them. and anger that, you know, such a wonderful experience was disrupted by such an event. i wasn't even able to finish. >> i don't know if you can hear us now, the emergency services go by, by there was one sort of bit of trivia, this was your sixth boston marathon. you're 20th overall i think. i'm told that you told your wife this would be your last. will it? >> i'll probably live up to that, you know? yesterday, when i was doing the final couple of miles, if you would have asked me i would have said for sure. but, yeah, it probably will be my last. >> and, pete, if you would, i don't know if a lot of people understand what it's like to be a part of a marathon but there
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is a sense of community, there's a sense of optimism and hope. you have volunteers and you have strangers cheering for you. and people going through tremendous, getting over tremendous odds when they cross that finish line. describe the culture, the spirit of what it is about to be a part of a marathon and the city of boston? >> well, the boston marathon, of course, is the epitome. i've been a runner for a long time, probably over 30 years, and that was always my goal, to someday get here. i was able to do that in the '90s five times. and then the last 14 years, every year went by, i said to myself i want to get back to boston, and i think that's every runner's goal. i really think every runner's goal is to someday run boston at least one time. and you know, if you're a runner, i think you feel that. of course, many get the experience of that. >> pete, we appreciate your
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time. we appreciate that you were able to experience it the six times that you were. we're sorry the last time was in tragic circumstance. thanks for sharing your personal thoughts with us. he's absolutely right, as a marathon runner it's one of the beautiful experiences. i don't think people understand the sense of community. >> it's like a family thing. >> like a spiritual experience, for something like that to happen it's more traumatic. >> and they'll pull together. >> you see the people in boston rallying around everybody. the next question, what is next here, of course? investigating a crime like this, we're going to talk with former massachusetts homeland security official about any kind of possible leads they might have at this point. when you have diabetes...
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coverage of the boston bombings continues. first, a quick check of other stories making news around the world. a powerful earthquake striking southern iran near the
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border with pakistan this morning. iranian state media reporting several people killed in iran and pakistan. it was a pretty big quake, 7.8 magnitude but hit an area where not many people live. >> felt 500 miles away from abu dhabi, where shibuildings shook seconds. >> venezuela four people are dead after a wave of violence comes after the razor-close presidential election, you might recall. officials declared chavez's hand pick successor president-elect. >> though the challenger has demanded recount. the government saying no way. 21 troops treated in hospital after the u.s. marine helicopter crashed in south korea. what is left of the chopper. >> it happened during amilitary exercises near the north korean border. the u.s. military says most troops have been released but
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six are still in the hospital in stable condition. in washington a bipartisan group of senators will not be rolling out an immigration bill today. that's because of the boston bombings. the four republicans and four democrats plan to announce details tomorrow. >> under the deal, any undocumented immigrant who entered the country after december 31, 2011 will not be eligible for citizenship. today is the sixth anniversary of the deadliest shooting rampage by a lone gunman in u.s. history. we are talking about the virginia tech massacre. families and friends of the 33 people killed, held a vigil outside the u.s. capitol building. >> they called the event #nomorenames. families and survivors from the massacres at newtown, connecticut elementary school, aurora, colorado, theater and tucson, arizona, shopping center, the one that wounded former congresswoman gabby giffords.
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returning now to our top story, bombings in boston. blo blast on monday that killed three and wounded 176. the fbi heading up investigation trying to figure out how think happened. >> our investigation certainly will not be confined very likely to the city limits of boston. it would extend out to eastern massachusetts area. this will be a worldwide investigation. we will take all of the evidence and where the leads take us. we will go to the ends of the earth to identify subject or subjects responsible for this e despicable crime and bring them to justice. >> the search for clues, that's got to be extensive. the crime scene, 12 blocks long? >> yeah. >> it's crazy. let's bring in cnn analyst and former assistant homeland security secretary juliette
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kayyem. what is it that they're going to looking for in early hours? >> well, they are trying to engage a lot of the public who may be unwitting sort of witnesses to what happened. there is a big suspicion that the perpetrator or perpetrators were probably on site and the reason there's no disclose sure of a cellular detonation. someone may have picture of someone walking into the area and four seconds later someone has a picture of the same person. both at logan and amtrak, trying to engage the people leaving town now. we have about 750,000 people -- 75,000 people leaving town to try to get them to look at their iphones. just about 200 feet away from me is the finish line. so they are combing through all 0 that. that's a forensic site and that may lead to materials or evidence related to both the m
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bomb and shrapnel that might have fingerprints. >> it's hard for people to imagine trying to secure a marathon like this, a lot of times what ends up happening you've got well-wishers, family members who want to come back, run with you the last mile or two. this is a difficult situation. how on earth are they going to figure out 0 who was in the spot at the time and all of these people with backpacks? lots of people have backpacks. how do they sort all of that out? >> that's exactly right. so the reason why we heard about so many possible explosives yesterday was because those were backpacks. anyone who has run a marathon or knows a marathon, people are throwing bags everywhere, they're exhausted,ooking for family members. now they're going through whatever may be, whatever materials may still be here. it is a lot. i will tell you this, marathon will happen next year. it will be different. the finish line will probably be different. i was head of homeland security for the state. it was a big part of planning the marathon.
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the problem is, of course, the finish line, as you said, is very open. you want it to be open. people are running into family members' arms, it's very joyous. there are be more precautions at finish line. no one believes marathons can be safe. it's 52 -- i'm doing math wrong -- 26 times 2 miles of spectators on both sides of the road and you can't make them perfectly safe. so you have procedures and processes in place to ensure that people are looking out for bad things happening and that the first responders know what to do if something does. >> you've got great insight here. so share some of it with us, if you will. president meeting with cabinet member, homeland security today. set the scene for us. what go on in a meeting look that? what's the atmosphere like? >> there's been probably hundreds of meetings already so far. each agency's going to have a piece of this depending on if this is foreign or domestic. you have the nctc, national
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counterterrorism center, agencies looking for potential threat streams, people claiming they did it on the internet. they're doing their thing. they then -- and the domestic side. the fbi has a big domestic role, department of homeland security, where i used to work, department of justice, you may have people involved at transportation. and then they all meet at the cabinet secretaries and deputies meet depending on what size meeting with the president to say here's where we are now. the president convenes to show he is leading this -- which is important -- the american public needs to see it. also make sure the government is talking in one voice. it's very important right now that you don't have cabinet members going off saying their own thing. you want to be on message with what the president's message is, which is as he said an hour ago, the investigation is going to take longer than the response. and so all of the speculation about an interview here or a saudi woman there is really just
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that, speculation. that's what's going. and he's got his counterterrorism team there. >> real quick here, the president, he's trying to project a sense of confidence at the same time as they are cautious as well. is there anything that you have seen that either indicates whether it's domestic or foreign terrorism? anything? >> so i mean there's -- my gut is telling me domestic. but i could very well prove wrong mostly because of the foreign intelligence is clearly not disclosed. there's almost no way, a lot of that stuff is not going to trickle out. the domestic stuff is from the evidence at the scene, the now appear to be unsophisticated bombs. the boston marathon, though it has a global invite list, its a local event. no one has taken credit for this, that's really an attribute of really a criminal or domestic criminal. and so that's just sort of -- that's speculation of having been in the field. but i between say, i don't know what pie don't know. so i think it's important that
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both sides of it, the foreign and the domestic, go and investigate and lead in the direction where the evidence is rather than some speculation beforehand that it's one thing or the other. >> absolutely. smart approach. thank you, juliette. appreciate it. >> great insight. now, here's an interesting side. "sports illustrated" boston marathon issue hit the stands today. and the man on the cover there, you see, is 78-year-old bill iffr iffrig. he was nearing the finish line when the first bomb went off, exploded. he told piers morgan the shockwave from the blast took him out. >> tremendous explosion, sounded like a bomb went off right next to me and shockwaves hit my whole body and my legs just started jittering around. i knew i was going down. >> so that is the guy we have been watching. that is the piece of video, that
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critical piece of video where you see him crumble from the impact. >> he felt something on his leg, too, but it was nothing major. a bit of a nick of obviousry a piece of debris or something like that. literally knocked over. all-hear more from him in the next hour. of course the boston bombing has london on edge because that city's preparing for its own marathon this weekend. we'll go live to london next to find out what security's being put in place there.
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